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I once asked a woman her rates, and she was right to take me apart

Posted as wrong_question_once on 3 September 2026

Hoping to find
to be useful and to be led, in something with years in it
Experience
Four years of reading and correcting myself. One short dynamic since.
Somewhere around
north Jersey, New York

Early on, I asked a woman what her rates were. I was not being crude and I was not trying to insult anybody. I genuinely did not know the two things were different, because almost everything I had ever seen about women who lead had money in it somewhere. She explained, at length, and she was entirely right to.

That was four years ago and I have thought about it since more than she would believe. What I had done was turn up as a customer. Not with a wallet out, but with the posture: what do you offer, what does it cost, what do I get. It took me about a year to understand that the posture was the problem, not the question.

Thirty eight, north Jersey, I work in freight, I have a truck and I do not mind the drive in, which I know still puts me at a disadvantage on a board where distance is the first filter anybody applies.

What I want now is to be useful to somebody and to be led, in a relationship, over years. Nothing is for sale in either direction and I would decline it if it were offered, having already learned that lesson at somebody else's expense.

Not looking for a woman who wants to be pursued with presents. Not looking for absolution from strangers, since I am not asking for any, only saying what I got wrong in case it saves someone else a year. Not looking for anything that has to end with me back over the bridge by eleven.

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